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Question: Patrick Cunningham - Citi Infrastructure Investments LLC - Analyst
: I guess, first on the chlorine and caustic capacity, why take out capacity here when ECU margins are positive, caustic value's holding up
relatively well?
Question: Patrick Cunningham - Citi Infrastructure Investments LLC - Analyst
: Understood. And then maybe just on Aberdeen, where did that sit in terms of the cost curve? And how should we think about closure
impacts on operating rates next year, domestic balances, and potentially providing a backstop to margins?
Question: Arun Viswanathan - RBC Capital Markets Inc - Analyst
: So I guess just on the -- your last comment about the cost difference. Maybe you can just kind of frame how these plants compare to Geismar
and Plaquemines and Lake Charles. Maybe what kind of improvement should we expect? I know that you've called out the $100 million
EBITDA, but is that margin?
And then if you do kind of do see some kind of volume improvement in the next year or two, do you plan on servicing that volume increase
from your now-future footprint? Or would you have to kind of do some de-bottlenecking? Or how do you kind of address that as well?
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Question: Arun Viswanathan - RBC Capital Markets Inc - Analyst
: And just as a follow-up, could you potentially frame -- I know it's 11% to 15% of your capacity. It looks like it's maybe a couple of percentage
points of North America total. And so do you think that would be sufficient to potentially tighten up the market within PVC, caustic and
chlorine to continue some price momentum in caustic and maybe drive some price momentum and margin improvement in the other two
in PVC and chlorine? I mean what's your kind of outlook on the potential positive impact on pricing and profitability from these actions?
Question: Aleksey Yefremov - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc - Analyst
: It looked to me like this chlor-alkali plant was probably serving markets, not just your PVC needs, but other chlor-alkali markets. Could you
describe what were those end markets? Was it merchant chlorine or something else? And what was the degree of your participation there?
Question: Aleksey Yefremov - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc - Analyst
: Understood. And just a follow-up on the cash flow side. It sounds like you may have had some -- just more extensive maintenance coming
up for these assets. If we think about long-term CapEx for you, how would that change sort of on a three-year or five-year basis? How much
lower would your ongoing CapEx be?
Question: Michael Sison - Wells Fargo Securities LLC - Analyst
: First question, in terms of the global capacity you have left, a little over $7 billion in caustic and I guess, $5 billion PVC, how much of that is
going to the export market now? And then why are the export market margins so weak? And what do you think needs to happen for that
part of the business to improve over time?
Question: Michael Sison - Wells Fargo Securities LLC - Analyst
: Got it. And then did you -- and I apologize if I missed it, but did you give an update for the fourth quarter for PEM? And if you have any color
on the trends there, that would be helpful. And I apologize if I missed that.
Question: Salvator Tiano - Bofa Merrill Lynch Asset Holdings Inc - Analyst
: So first thing I want to ask is also if you can refresh us how much was your short ethylene exposure previously? And how much will it be
now given the lower needs from the VCM and PVC markets?
And then if you can also elaborate a little bit on the notion of these being higher cost assets, obviously, was it, for example, the higher
energy needs, lower conversion ratios, older equipment and automation? Or for example, in the regions that they were operating was
energy costs or ethylene costs higher? What essentially made these assets higher cost?
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Question: Joshua Spector - UBS AG - Analyst
: I was wondering with the PVC assets, did you explore a sale at all? I mean there's been some competitors talking about building an export
position. Obviously, a high-cost asset within the US maybe isn't that attractive, but did you guys look at that?
Question: Joshua Spector - UBS AG - Analyst
: Is that an option? Or is it too far gone?
Question: Joshua Spector - UBS AG - Analyst
: Fair enough. And just quickly on the cost savings side, the $600 million you called out, is that a number we can add to second half '25? Or
is some of that more of a run rate and accrues more in 2027?
Question: Joshua Spector - UBS AG - Analyst
: Additive on top of '26 or realized in '26?
Question: David Begleiter - Deutsche Bank AG - Analyst
: Steve, should these actions return PEM to be EBITDA profitable in Q1?
Question: David Begleiter - Deutsche Bank AG - Analyst
: Got it. And just on the styrene asset, can you address that closure and why now? Because that asset has been challenged for a number of
years?
Question: Jeffrey Zekauskas - JPMorgan Chase & Co - Analyst
: You talked about a $100 million EBITDA improvement. Is that the elimination of $100 million in current EBITDA losses? Is that the way you
calculate that?
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Question: Jeffrey Zekauskas - JPMorgan Chase & Co - Analyst
: Okay. And in general, you talked -- over and over, you've talked about transportation costs and logistics costs. So when you think about
the high-cost character of these assets, are they $100 a tonne more costly than your average assets?
Question: Jeffrey Zekauskas - JPMorgan Chase & Co - Analyst
: When will they close?
Question: Kevin McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners LLC - Analyst
: Steve, as a clarification, do you intend to dismantle these plants? Or is there a scenario under which you could restart the capacity if, for
example, the export market dynamics were to improve over the next several years? In other words, are some or all of the plants going to
be idled rather than dismantled?
Question: Kevin McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners LLC - Analyst
: Okay. And so could you restart the capacity if market conditions were to turn up in cyclical fashion a couple of years from now? Or is that
precluded perhaps for other reasons?
Question: Kevin McCarthy - Vertical Research Partners LLC - Analyst
: Understood. And then lastly, if I may, you've pointed out a couple of times on the call that these particular assets serve export markets. Has
your view of the prospects of US PVC exports changed perhaps in a negative way over the last quarter or two?
Just thinking about markets like China, India and some of the trade flow dynamics in those countries and elsewhere. Maybe you could just
provide a little bit more color on if there was a particular tipping point that catalyzed today's actions?
Question: Aleksey Yefremov - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc - Analyst
: I apologize if I missed this, but to what degree are you planning to offset the loss of this capacity by running other assets harder? In other
words, how would you expect your PVC exports to change next year? Is it down by sort of some healthy proportion of the capacity that
you're shutting down or down by a much smaller percentage?
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