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Question: Sebastian Kuenne - RBC Capital Markets, Research Division - Analyst
: Just basically an add on to the questions that have already been asked. So can you give us an idea of the current exposure, gold, copper, iron, coal,
and I think limestone is also a business for Schenck with the current exporters.
The second question, yes, again, on valuation. The way I understand it is that you include the top line growth, you have operational gearing --
positive gearing in that business for 5 years and you have synergies with the group overall. If you put this all together and you calculate the EBITDA,
you then say, okay, we pay 10x EV/EBITDA 5 years out which would then imply a very high current multiple.
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MAY 09, 2022 / 1:00PM, SAND.ST - Sandvik AB To Acquire Mining Part of Schenck Process Group M&A Call
And when I look at your competitors like Metso or FLSmidth, the whole trade below 10x. So I would like to understand why we're so optimistic on
those growth outlook? Is it really just the synergies? Or is there something behind maybe IT, software, other things?
Stefan Widing - Sandvik AB (publ) - President, CEO, Director and President of Sandvik Manufacturing & Machining Solutions
I can take the valuation question. But Anders, do you have the current ore breakdown to provide?
Question: Sebastian Kuenne - RBC Capital Markets, Research Division - Analyst
: So today's EBITDA -- so 2022 EBITDA plus the synergies you expect in 5 years' time for earnings, including -- but then including the growth synergies
that you mentioned earlier, right? You talked about growth and revenues synergies.
Stefan Widing - Sandvik AB (publ) - President, CEO, Director and President of Sandvik Manufacturing & Machining Solutions
Yes, yes. Yes, correct. Yes.
Question: Sebastian Kuenne - RBC Capital Markets, Research Division - Analyst
: Okay. Okay. Okay.
Stefan Widing - Sandvik AB (publ) - President, CEO, Director and President of Sandvik Manufacturing & Machining Solutions
I would tell you will still arrive at the number, of course, about 10x EBITDA, if that's your reference point. But we believe -- again, as I mentioned,
we believe when we look at this case, we see it as very value creative based on the returns we can see.
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MAY 09, 2022 / 1:00PM, SAND.ST - Sandvik AB To Acquire Mining Part of Schenck Process Group M&A Call
And it's coming from the good -- very good margin profile combined with good underlying growth and strong synergies.
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