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Question: Estelle Weingrod - JPMorgan Chase & Co - Analyst
: I've got three, please. I mean the first one on US Education and Higher Education more specifically. Could you give us some initial colors on the
full-term enrollments? Then on North America, again, you elaborated on the action plan underway in the US.
When you talked about targeted investment to enhance foundations for profitable growth, is it mostly investment in US Higher Education? And
within this, is it mostly about expanding sales higher? You mentioned 50% expansion of sales teams.
And last question is just on your -- on modeling details. You've got that slide in the PowerPoint. On other income and expense, you guide for
EUR160 million, which is broadly flat year-on-year despite the step-up in investment this year, being an investment and transition year. So I was a
bit surprised there's not more of an increase there.
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Question: Jaafar Mestari - Exane Bnp Paribas - Analyst
: I have three questions, if that's okay. First one is in terms of your operating models and services. You mentioned some of the qualitative targets
that you've achieved this year: branded offers, more than 50% of revenue; Entegra, more than doubled; carbon emissions, minus 34%; food waste,
you didn't quite get to minus 50%, but not far. There was another one on digital and new services, 10% of revenue, you haven't said, but I assume
you're not that far.
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My question is, you've achieved most of your soft qualitative targets and yet the overall financial performance was disappointing. What is your
assessment here? Did you take targets that were not the right ones, and they need a complete rework under new management? Or was the delivery
not deep enough? I guess you can get to 50% branded by changing a logo on the site.
So have the teams delivered on these targets the right way, a way that benefits the business? Or have they delivered sometimes in a cosmetic way
Question: Jaafar Mestari - Exane Bnp Paribas - Analyst
: And that last qualitative target that you didn't explicitly say, the 10% of revenue from digital and new services. Did you achieve that in '25?
Question: Jaafar Mestari - Exane Bnp Paribas - Analyst
: I think in your qualitative target, you had doubling Entegra, and you had reaching 50% branded offers, but you also had a target to reach 10% of
group revenue from vending and digital and new services. So I just wanted to check if that one was on track as well.
Question: Simon Lechipre - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
: I've got three, please. First of all, on organic growth for next year. Could you clarify the timing of the demobilization of the global accounts and
also the timing of the -- impact of the reclassification of the contract? I don't quite get why organic growth should drop from 4% underlying in Q4
to kind of 1.5% in Q1, and then how you would then accelerate in subsequent quarters.
Secondly, on this contract reclassification, could you clarify if there is any impact on profit and on margin in percentage terms? And lastly, in terms
of the organization, I mean, I noticed that Michael is managing Government Services on top of universities. What is the rationale for this? And does
that mean you do not necessarily believe in a strategy focused on sectorization similar to what your closest competitor is doing?
Question: Simon Lechipre - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
: Okay. Just on this impact of contract reclassification, I mean, can you quantify it? And is it going to impact you as soon as Q1? Or does the impact
start later on in the year?
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Question: Simon Lechipre - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
: So it means that you need to accelerate organic growth after Q1 to offset this impact on top of the rest, right?
Question: Leo Carrington - Citi - Analyst
: If I could ask just two questions. Firstly, I appreciate he doesn't officially start for three weeks, but did Thierry Delaporte have any input into setting
this guidance? And then secondly, just on the margin outlook again. In terms of the factors pushing margins down mix phasing investments, is it
correct to say these are all headwinds? And in terms of the relative importance of all three of them, is one more important than the other? The
investment sounded significant, but I wonder if you can quantify that.
Question: Kate Xiao - Bank of America - Analyst
: I have a couple. The first one is a follow-up on the previous question on branded offer. You mentioned, Sophie, that now the first step is done, and
you need to go deeper now. I wonder if you could elaborate what that means? Do you mean a further, I guess, change of the organization, change
of the team so that it's more brand focused, more sectorized? And would this be a big task for the new CEO? That's my first question.
And the second question also on just investment. I think, Sophie, you mentioned before for fiscal year 2024, you spent more than EUR600 million
on IT, data, digital. I wonder what that number is for '25? And do you see a step-up in '26? If you could just -- obviously, I appreciate you cannot
give us exact numbers, but the level of step-up would be really helpful.
And then just number three, specifically on retention. I think you mentioned that you're doing preemptive renegotiations with big contracts. I
guess, any progress there? Are you doing more in terms of preemptive retention -- preemptive efforts to help really with retention? If you could
elaborate on the efforts there?
Question: Sabrina Blanc - Sanford C Bernstein & Co LLC - Analyst
: I have three questions from my part. The first one is regarding the branded offer. I would like to have more idea of how it has been organized. I
mean, who has designed the brand, who is in charge of the leadership of the brand?
My second question is regarding -- you have mentioned the hiring of commercials. I would like to understand in which areas specifically, if it's
regarding the GPO for new commercial? Or is it commercial dedicated to the retention? And are they incentivized in these three key segments?
And lastly is regarding the M&A. You have mentioned bolt-on acquisition, but we would like to understand in which areas you are focusing and
what are your KPIs?
Question: Andre Juillard - Deutsche Bank AG - Analyst
: Just a follow-up on investments in general. Could you give us some more color about what you plan to do in terms of IT and reporting software?
Do you still have some significant investment to do on that side? And could you give us some quantification on that? And regarding CapEx, you
remain relatively low with 2% compared to your main competitor. Do we need to anticipate a significant improvement on that side or not?
Question: Andre Juillard - Deutsche Bank AG - Analyst
: But you still consider that 2.5% is the right number?
Question: Johanna Jourdain - Oddo BHF SCA - Analyst
: Two questions from me. First one, could you please remind us the level of renewals in large contracts to come in '26? And can you update us on
where you stand there on those renewals? And second question, can you update us on the ramp-up of the Healthcare contracts that were delayed
in '25 or late to start and in particular, the captive contract in North America?
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