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Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: Perhaps not surprisingly, my first question is probably going to be around private credit. And while I think you and many of
your peers have addressed this at length really over the last couple of months, the market still continues to be a little jittery
on this topic.
So first, and I guess acknowledging that Apollo's activity is actually an investment-grade space for the most part, I'd still love
your perspective on current state of private credit markets broadly. How are these headlines impacting LP appetite? And as
part of that, maybe we can talk a little bit about the BOE and what the regulators are trying to do in sort of stress testing and
how helpful might that be to the marketplace?
Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: So let's talk a little bit about that. So when you think about the growth opportunities for Apollo, and you made that point a
bunch of times, we talked about it on the way in as well, origination. That's really the source of growth for the firm.
So when you think about your recent trends, you've delivered really strong origination volumes for two quarters in a row with
pretty stable spreads, I think, over 300 basis points over treasuries. You've effectively achieved your five-year targets in the
first year on that front. Maybe you're talking about.
Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: I've heard that. I think I've written that probably as well. Maybe I haven't used that term exactly. But let's talk about what's
driving the strength so far? And I guess, looking ahead, when you look at areas that you're most excited about, what does
that sort of look like?
And what are some of the more emerging capabilities on the origination side that you think will be contributors over time?
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Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: Can we double click into one of these areas, really financing the AI boom. And as you -- the way you and your -- many of your
peers had described like this global infrastructure renaissance and that the demand for capital effectively has never been
greater.
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At the same time, there are building concerns around valuation levels and the fact that maybe perhaps too much capital is
starting to chase some of these opportunities. How are you navigating these dynamics? And I guess when you think about
some of the bigger risks in the AI ecosystem, how would you frame that?
Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: Let's talk about fundraising for a little bit. You guys obviously have been doing incredibly well on the origination side. That's
driving really strong momentum on the fundraising as well. Embedded in your five-year targets, I think really continuation of
that particularly when it comes to credit management fees.
Maybe talk a little bit about sort of sources of demand that are driving this growth, particularly from third-party institutional
investors? And how perhaps you've seen the mix of clients and products that they're looking for evolving over the last few
years?
Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Why don't we spend a couple of minutes on the channels, the wealth market being obviously
one of the more important growth drivers for you guys and the industry broadly. Apollo is making great progress here running
at about $20 billion on annual -- in terms of annual flows. EDF, your direct lending fund has probably been one of the bigger
drivers of that.
A couple of questions there. How have the media kind of barrage of headlines around direct lending, impacting financial
adviser appetite for your product and direct lending products broadly? And how do you think that the sort of $20 billion pace
of wealth flows will evolve over the next couple of years?
Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: You spoke a little bit about that on the last earnings call as well. So maybe we can drill down into the opportunity you're seeing
with traditional managers. On the one end of the spectrum, I totally get it, right? Like this could enhance returns for a lot of
the traditional products. There are limitations, most 40th [punk] can only own up to 15% of liquids, most will probably not go
quite that high.
How do you, I guess, envision the commercial model for something like this working? And how do you, I guess, expect that
part of the market to develop?
Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: Let's play this out a little further. So as the end market evolves the way you sort of envision it, and obviously, we've seen that
already with individual investors, insurance companies, maybe traditional asset managers, what are your expectations in terms
of private markets becoming more of a tradable asset? And what role do you see Apollo and perhaps some of your peers
playing in that ecosystem?
Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: Right. It's fascinating. All right. Let's pivot a little bit. Let's talk about the rest of your business, so private equity and hybrid.
You guys have a really strong track record in private equity. You're going to be in the market raising your next vintage next
year. Maybe talk to us a little bit about the LP appetite you hear in the market. Obviously, private equity as and asset class
has been more challenged over the last couple of years. It's starting to get a little better. So curious your thoughts there.
And then secondly, on hybrid, I believe back at the Investor Day, you talked about that being one of your fastest-growing
businesses. How do you expect that business to evolve over the next few years?
Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: Great. Looking forward to seeing that.
Question: Alexander Blostein - Goldman Sachs Group Inc - Analyst
: Okay. Let's let's spend a couple of minutes on Athene. You guys recently held a bit of a teach-in and really kind of outlining
the growth prospects for the business for the next couple of years. So I wanted to double click on a couple of things you talked
about.
When it comes to originations with $85 million plus in volume targets in '26, embedded within that, and you talked about some
of the new products, new structures, and really opportunities to evolve that marketplace, talk to us a little bit about what that
looks like?
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